{"id":19899,"date":"2014-06-15T21:29:12","date_gmt":"2014-06-16T00:29:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/clubes.obmep.org.br\/blog\/?page_id=19899"},"modified":"2023-05-31T23:43:05","modified_gmt":"2023-06-01T02:43:05","slug":"uma-soma-diferente","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/clubes.obmep.org.br\/blog\/uma-soma-diferente\/","title":{"rendered":".Problem\u00e3o: Uma soma diferente"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin:10px\">\n<div class=\"g1n\">\n<p class=\"tit\" style=\"line-height:25px;margin:10px\">Problema<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size:12px;color:#800000\"> (Indicado a partir do 7\u00ba ano do E. F.)<\/span><\/p>\n<hr style=\"height:1px; width:100%;background-color:#800000; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;border: 0 none\"\/>\n<p style=\"margin:20px\">\n<p>Perguntado sobre quantos alunos ele tinha naquele ano, um professor escreveu no quadro:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#9658;<em> 440 alunos, dos quais 153 s\u00e3o meninos e 276 meninas.<\/em><br \/>\nInicialmente a resposta nos pareceu estranha, mas logo compreendemos que o professor n\u00e3o empregou o sistema decimal. <\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:10px\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-15338 aligncenter\" alt=\"quadro2\" src=\"http:\/\/clubes.obmep.org.br\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/quadro2-300x256.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/clubes.obmep.org.br\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/quadro2-300x256.jpg 300w, https:\/\/clubes.obmep.org.br\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/quadro2.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><br \/>\n<strong>Qual sistema de numera\u00e7\u00e3o ele usou?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 13px;text-align:right;line-height:18px;\">Extra\u00eddo de  <strong>Uma Grosa de Problemas de Matem\u00e1tica &#8211; III Bienal da SBM<\/strong>, 2006.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"margin:40px\">\n<div class=\"g1n\">\n<p class=\"tit\" style=\"line-height:29px;margin:10px\">Solu\u00e7\u00e3o 1<\/p>\n<hr style=\"height:1px; width:100%;background-color:#800000; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;border: 0 none\"\/>\n<p style=\"margin:20px\">\n<p><strong>Sistema de base 9.<\/strong><br \/>\nVerifiquemos as somas:<\/p>\n<table style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF; width:30%; height:auto; text-align:center; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\">\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]1  [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]5 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]3 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]2[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]7[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]6[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]+ [\/tex] <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex](1 +2)[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex](5+7)[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex](3+6)[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>&#9658; Tirando [tex]9[\/tex] da soma [tex](3+6)[\/tex] fica [tex]0[\/tex];<br \/>\n&#9658; acrescentando [tex]1[\/tex] na soma [tex](5+7)[\/tex] e tirando [tex]9[\/tex] fica [tex]4[\/tex];<br \/>\n&#9658; acrescentando [tex]1[\/tex] na soma  [tex](1 +2)[\/tex] fica [tex]4[\/tex].<\/p>\n<hr style=\"height:1px; width:100%;background-color:#800000; margin-top: 15px; margin-bottom: 15px;border: 0 none\"\/>\n<p class=\"g2\">Solu\u00e7\u00e3o elaborada pelo Clube <strong> MIRIM APRENDIZ<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"margin:40px\">\n<div class=\"g1n\">\n<p class=\"tit\" style=\"line-height:29px;margin:10px\">Solu\u00e7\u00e3o 2<\/p>\n<hr style=\"height:1px; width:100%;background-color:#800000; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;border: 0 none\"\/>\n<p style=\"margin:20px\">\n<p> Este \u00e9 um problem\u00e3o para quem n\u00e3o conhece ou n\u00e3o domina outras bases num\u00e9ricas&#8230;<br \/>\nEntretanto, aqueles com razo\u00e1vel conhecimento do tema, e com um pouco de observa\u00e7\u00e3o, podem concluir que, por contarmos com at\u00e9 o algarismo 7, tratamos com uma base que \u00e9, no m\u00ednimo, 8.<br \/>\nAinda, como a soma dos algarismos das unidades das parcelas (6 e 3) resulta em 0, a base 9 passa a ser candidata em potencial&#8230;<br \/>\nDe fato, sabemos que:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> [tex](440)_9=(360)_{10}[\/tex], [tex](153)_9=(129)_{10}[\/tex] e [tex](276)_9=(231)_{10}[\/tex]; <\/li>\n<li>na base 10, [tex]\\boxed{360=129+231}[\/tex]; <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>ent\u00e3o, temos que a base em quest\u00e3o \u00e9 mesmo a 9.<br \/>\nObserve o esqueminha da soma na base 9:<\/p>\n<table style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF; width:30%; height:auto; text-align:center; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\">\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"><span style=\"font-size:11px\"> [tex]\\underline{1} [\/tex]<\/span> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"><span style=\"font-size:11px\"> [tex]\\underline{1} [\/tex]<\/span> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]1  [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]5 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]3 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]2[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]7[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]6[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]+ [\/tex] <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]4[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]4[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]0[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Na base 10, poder\u00edamos reescrever a informa\u00e7\u00e3o dada pelo professor como:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#9658;<em> 360 alunos, dos quais 129 s\u00e3o meninos e 231 s\u00e3o meninas.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Observe que, se a base fosse 8, ter\u00edamos [tex](153)_8=(107)_{10}[\/tex], [tex](276)_8=(190)_{10}[\/tex] e [tex](440)_8=(288)_{10}[\/tex]; mas, na base 10, [tex]\\boxed{107+190=297}[\/tex]  e n\u00e3o [tex]288[\/tex].<br \/>\n S\u00f3 para complementar, veja o esqueminha da soma [tex]153+276[\/tex] na base 8 e observe que [tex](451)_8=(297)_{10}[\/tex]:<\/p>\n<table style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF; width:30%; height:auto; text-align:center; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\">\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"><span style=\"font-size:11px\"> [tex]\\underline{1} [\/tex]<\/span> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"><span style=\"font-size:11px\"> [tex]\\underline{1} [\/tex]<\/span> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"> <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]1  [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]5 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]3 [\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]2[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]7[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]6[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\">[tex]+ [\/tex] <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]4[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]5[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td   class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 1px solid #FFFFFF; border-top: 2px solid #000000 \">[tex]1[\/tex] <\/td>\n<td  class=\"bf\" style=\"border: 2px solid #FFFFFF\"> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<hr style=\"height:1px; width:100%;background-color:#800000; margin-top: 15px; margin-bottom: 15px;border: 0 none\"\/>\n<p class=\"g2\">Solu\u00e7\u00e3o elaborada pelos <strong>Moderadores do Blog<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"margin:30px\">\n<div class=\"g3\" style=\"width: 500px;\">Participou da discuss\u00e3o o Clube <strong>MIRIM APRENDIZ<\/strong>.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Problema (Indicado a partir do 7\u00ba ano do E. F.) Perguntado sobre quantos alunos ele tinha naquele ano, um professor escreveu no quadro: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#9658; 440 alunos, dos quais 153 s\u00e3o meninos e 276 meninas. Inicialmente a resposta nos pareceu estranha, mas logo compreendemos que o professor n\u00e3o empregou o sistema decimal. 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